Should i kill the illusive man

Sign up for free! Spolier spoiler!!!!!!!!!!!! Is there any way to save anderson from dying, and also is there any way to keep shepard from dying or becoming a computer?

User Info: gothis Anyone else heard of this. Top Voted Answer. The only way to save Anderson is to have used either THE paragon or renegade options in conversation with the Illusive Man the first two times you meet him Mars and Thessia. At the final choice, pick to destroy all synthetic life, and after the destruction scene, you will see Shepard surrounded by Citadel rubble: he seems dead, but then he gasps and the screen cuts to black.

Ergo, Shepard lives. Hope this helps! You can do this by earning Morality Points, which are earned by picking specific dialogue options, as well as completing the main Missions and Side Missions , and just talking with characters throughout the world of Mass Effect.

The first two are associated with the two Moralities, while Reputation Points are neutral. The first conversation with the Illusive Man occurs on Mars, but its Persuasion Check is trickier to clear than most because it's so early in the game. That being said, there are three ways to make sure you can clear it:. When you do enter the Prothean Archives after crossing the tramway, you'll eventually be contacted by The Illusive Man.

Here he'll first make mention that he intends to stop the Reapers by controlling them, rather than destroying them as Shepard intends to do.

Rather than advancing the conversation with "You're deluded" or "Over my dead body" on the right, pick "You're wasting time! By choosing "You're wasting time! Now your two Persuasion Options will show up: the "Help me, then" Charm in blue or the "Don't count me out" Intimidate in red. Pick the one that aligns with the morality of your Shepard, and you'll have passed this conversation's check.

When you unlock the Prothean VI at the end, Kai Leng will appear and open up a line to the Illusive Man, who once again tries to convince Shepard that controlling the Reapers is the best idea, while Shepard remains adamant about destroying them. Pick "Whose side are you on? After this, pick either the "We need to work to together! The third conversation with the Illusive Man will happen at the end of Priority: Cerberus Headquarters when you reach the Illusive Man's office.

Shepard will bring up the Illusive Man's work on Sanctuary, and he'll respond that now that he knows what the Catalyst is, he has what he needs to control the Reapers themselves. Here you can pick "So what is it? He refuses, and says that he's done helping Shepard and is only willing to do whatever it takes to stop the Reapers.

Now you can pick the "It's not too late to help me" Charm or the "You're in this for yourself" Intimidate. The final confrontation itself will happen towards the end of the game in Citadel : The Return, where Shepard makes it to the Conduit Beam and is transported to the Citadel , followed shortly after by Admiral Anderson.

You'll both make it to a control platform, but will encounter the Illusive Man, who uses his Reaper implants to control Shepard and Anderson's bodies.

As always, the Illusive Man is convinced that he isn't indoctrinated and that controlling the Reapers is best for humanity. Your work isn't over yet, however! You will have a further three Persuasion Options through the course of the conversation. If Shepard destroys the base, the Illusive Man is furious with the Commander's idealism, saying he knew that Shepard would "choke on the hard decisions". He also asserts that the Collector technology could have been used to humanity's benefit, and claims that, given its goals, Cerberus is humanity.

He is rebuffed by Shepard, who wasn't looking for his approval and then chooses to quit working with Cerberus. The Illusive Man tries to dissuade the Commander, citing that it is because of him that Shepard is alive.

Shepard can then rudely terminate the communication or promise to win the war with the Reapers without sacrificing humanity's soul. Alternatively, if Shepard accepts the Illusive Man's suggestion and kills only the Collectors, he considers it an excellent opportunity to advance the position of humanity.

Shepard can either warn the Illusive Man about using the Collector technology for anything else other than fighting the Reapers, or to agree with his idea of advancing humanity using the technology. At the end of this meeting, the Illusive Man smiles deviously while looking at a hologram of his newly acquired prize: the Collector base.

After Shepard's assault on the Collector Base , the Illusive Man sought to learn more about the Reapers in order to combat them. He required a test subject to experiment with salvaged Reaper technology. The Illusive Man subjected his former operative to implantation with Reaper technology and would have him killed if Grayson got out of control. Before he could terminate Grayson, however, the turian military launched a mass strike on all known Cerberus assets, facilities and agents in both Council and Terminus space, including the station where the experiment was being conducted.

The Illusive Man was forced to flee, while Grayson was overtaken by the Reapers just as Saren Arterius was and sent on a rampage. Seeing that Grayson had become a liability, the Illusive Man dispatched Leng to finish the job. Leng ultimately succeeded in his task, ending Grayson's life at the Jon Grissom Academy.

Leng was forced to escape afterwards, leaving what remained of Grayson's corpse in Alliance hands. The Illusive Man was not concerned about leaving Grayson's Reaper-altered body behind, knowing that men like David Anderson would be as pro-active as him in preparing for the Reapers' arrival. Also, unwilling to afford a war with Omega 's queen, Aria T'Loak , the Illusive Man used her suspicions of Grayson's involvement in her daughter's death to secure an alliance with her.

Note: This section features material from the first edition of Mass Effect: Deception , which BioWare has acknowledged contains discrepancies with other Mass Effect lore. Once revised editions of the book are released, this section will be updated.

When Gillian Grayson discovers that the Illusive Man is responsible for the death of her father, she embarks on a quest to kill him. Ultimately Gillian, with the help of a biotic supremacist movement known as the Biotic Underground, capture Kai Leng and hold him ransom to the Illusive Man. The goal of their plan was not to get money, but rather to lure the Illusive Man to a trap where he can be killed. The Illusive Man eventually agrees to pay the ransom in person for the return of Kai Leng, one of his best operatives.

When Gillian's group arrives at the meeting point, they see the Illusive Man and the satchels of credits for the ransom. Gillian, unable to keep her composure, summons dark energy and releases a high powered biotic reave on the Illusive Man. To her surprise, it didn't kill him. Only then does she realize that the meet was a setup and that the Illusive Man was simply present by means of a holo image. Additionally, the satchels of credits were, in fact, only filled with rocks.

Kai Leng catches Gillian off guard while she is processing the Illusive Man's deception and kills her. After cementing the alliance between Cerberus and Aria, the Illusive Man dispatched research teams to construct bases on the other side of the Omega 4 Relay to scavenge for Reaper technology. Unfortunately, a new type of husks called Adjutants being held in captivity in those bases broke free and commandeered Cerberus vessels to begin an invasion of Omega.

Though Aria and Petrovsky amassed a fleet to defend Omega from more Adjutants, Ashe, who was imprisoned for defying Aria's authority and fought his way free, called the Illusive Man to confirm that he's ready to start the real battle for Omega. With Aria out of the way, the station's gangs are unable to mount a cohesive defense.

Aria eventually does return by hijacking the Elbrus , Petrovsky's ship, and coordinates a guerrilla war against the Cerberus invaders. Petrovsky secures victory only when he threatens to order the Cerberus fleet to destroy the station.

The Illusive Man's gambit succeeds. With Omega under his control, Cerberus now has exclusive access to the Omega 4 Relay and the center of the galaxy, a treasure trove of Reaper technology and potentially the safest location in the galaxy to weather the Reaper invasion.

While Liara T'Soni uses her influence as the Shadow Broker to find a way to stop the Reapers , the Illusive Man secretly monitors her progress and learns of her intent to investigate the Protheans for leads. Later, when Liara journeys to a Prothean ruin on Kahje , a Cerberus Phantom arrives there before her, kills the site's staff, and turns its defenses against Liara's shuttle.

When Liara makes it to the site and kills the Phantom, the Illusive Man contacts her via hologram. He apologizes for the Phantom's attack, but claims a rogue faction of Cerberus is responsible. He suggests forming an alliance with Liara to stop the Reapers and that they pool their knowledge, but when Liara challenges him to turn over his research first, he remains silent.

Liara concludes he either wants to keep his research to himself or he doesn't have any research to share. Angered, the Illusive Man insinuates she is incapable of running the Shadow Broker's organisation and claims that the criminal underworld think the Shadow Broker has become soft and weak, insisting that Liara needs his help. Liara points out that he is the one trying to make a deal, advises him to send an army the next time he tries to kill her and cuts him off before he can continue arguing.

In , during the Reaper invasion, the Illusive Man appears via hologram on Mars before Shepard and Liara, who were on Mars in search of a Prothean superweapon. He began criticizing the Alliance for squandering their precious time researching the Prothean Archives and reveals his intention to use the information to devise a way to dominate the Reapers and use their advanced technology for humanity's benefit. Shepard calls his plan insane while Earth is under siege. The Illusive Man, unperturbed, warns the Commander not to stand in the way of his plans, which Shepard brushes off.

Eva was able to inflict serious damage before Shepard is able to disable the synthetic. The Illusive Man's methods became far more direct than those he has used in the past: He orders direct attacks on the other factions in the galaxy, attempts to stop Shepard from recovering a fertile krogan female on Sur'Kesh as well as trying to instigate war between the turians and krogan by detonating a bomb on Tuchanka , orders an attack on the Citadel itself to assist Councilor Udina in taking control from the Council, and backs a project on Horizon known as Sanctuary led by Henry Lawson to study Reaper Indoctrination as well as Husks in an attempt to find a way to control the Reapers.

Regardless of setbacks encountered, he always writes off the losses as inconsequential, even considering a human of high stature like Udina to be expendable. During the Reaper invasion of Thessia , Shepard discovers a hidden Prothean Beacon containing crucial information for identifying the Catalyst to finish the Crucible.

The Illusive Man, having learned about the beacon through the Mars archives, appears once again via hologram and attempts to sway Shepard into realizing the benefits of controlling the Reapers rather than destroying them. He points out that if the Reapers wanted to destroy all organic life, they could have done so already; he asserts that the Reapers are simply interested in exerting their control over organics, as they have done for thousands of cycles.

Ultimately, when Shepard was able to track down Cerberus Headquarters, the Illusive Man was absent for the Alliance assault. Video logs found on the station show that the Illusive Man allowed himself to be implanted with Reaper-derived nanotechnology, with no anesthetic. He also refused to allow Leng to kill Shepard, whom he doesn't want to write off as a total loss yet.

He also reveals that, while he does consider Shepard to be his enemy, he still has a great deal of respect for the Commander and warns Kai Leng to show the same respect. He later appears before Shepard as a hologram again, and tells Shepard that Cerberus will never be destroyed, claiming it to be an idea, not just an organization.

He then turned to EDI , noting how determined she is to destroy the Reapers. Despite Shepard's advice not to listen to him, the Illusive Man points out she could've destroyed Eva , but instead chose to control her.

EDI defends that she felt it was necessary, which made the Illusive Man feel that his beliefs are justified. Vendetta reveals that the Catalyst to be the Citadel but the Illusive Man had already fled there and thus alerted the Reapers of its intended purpose. Shepard finds the Illusive Man onboard the Citadel orbiting Earth, showing signs of Reaper modifications across his face.

Using these upgrades, the Illusive Man immobilizes and controls the motor functions of both Shepard and Anderson. He then forces Shepard to shoot Anderson in the gut to prove his powers. Despite Shepard asking him to let them stop the Reapers, the Illusive Man refuses to allow the Commander to undo his plans of controlling the Reapers. He claims that he is confident that he can control them, but when Shepard asks him if he is willing to bet humanity's existence on it his resistance begins to falter.

He desperately argues that sacrifices had to be made, but Shepard counters by saying that he had sacrificed too much. However, when Shepard convinces the Illusive Man that he is under the Reapers' control and tells him to resist them, the Illusive Man replies that he "tried" before shooting himself in the head. On the other hand, if Shepard chastises the Illusive Man at his lust for control costing humanity the war, he angrily rebuts that notion and attempts to shoot Shepard but is shot first by the Commander instead.

With his last breath, the Illusive Man looks through the Citadel arms and remarks how beautiful Earth is, wishing Shepard could see it the same way. The Catalyst , manifesting as the young boy Shepard saw killed during the fall of Earth, explains to Shepard that the Illusive Man was correct in believing that it was possible to take control of the Reapers; however, he would never have been able to do this himself, as the Reapers were already controlling him. The Illusive Man's final appearance is in the final decision at the Crucible , where he appears in a vision as the embodiment of the "Control" option.

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